Oh, and does the Islamic Sharia finally smell like a camel to you. Your freedom taken away? Seriously! Also, I’m only 38, but remember when people knew what language was appropriate in public (or in front of elders, children, women, etc) which now seems to be forgotten. “Just from the women, mostly,” she said. Hey Colorado – an ELBOW is gonna cause young boys to lose their minds?? Just like it was in Europe before the Germans put them into ovens. The Hassids are fotgetting that. Would it bother you if brought ny laun chair, wearing my thong swimming suit and spent a couple of hours sitting in front of your house this weekend? They’d love to do the same thing here if they could. If I was a woman I would go there dressed in a bikini in protest of that stupid sign!!! At least in this one, people are hard-pressed to figure out who to sue. Find homes for sale and real estate in Kiryas Joel, NY at realtor.com®. Little by little my freedoms are being taken away in the guise of If you do not like the town of KJ, then why go there? As long as they were just being ASKED and not being forcibly shaved; what’s the problem? So Every one has something that doesn’t sit right with them. Carol, you might want to get your “G” looked at. I don’t like to see present progressive verbs walking around without even wearing a “g.” I’m aware this is a public place, but please….be courteous to what I, personally, would like to see. It’s that difference we need to wake up and see. Hardly. Box 56 Suite 340 Monroe, NY 10950 Phone: 845-783-8300 Fax: 845-783-9491 View Kiryas Joel's Municipal Code. Sad that what you say in jest is true in the most extreme cases. Kiryas Joel Village and allied religious groups violate the Constitution and take control of federal and state courts. BTW YES I KNOW WE MEN ARE ALL PIGS… BUT THAT”S WHY YOU LOVE US!!!! Hispanic or Latinoof … I am an orthodox Jew and I love our communities because they are amazing. “If our standards of modesty are not what is practiced in the surrounding communities, then it is even more incumbent to provide this polite reminder,” he said. And it is falling. Lighten up dude your towel is wrapped too tight! “It’s nice to request that people behave in a way respect to their beliefs,” said Barry Kaufmann of Wantagh. A village trustee pointed out the signs said nothing about consequences for violating these guidelines – because there are no consequences. Women aren’t considered second class citizens or prohibited from an education, like in Sharia law. The Jews didn’t want walled ghettoes; they were thrown in there. Television is a social control device. Yet this community has no rights? You in a Bikini? Maybe, maybe, that comparison would hold water if the town weren’t funded by the rest of the county, but it is. What do you think the “Maintain gender seperation in all public places” means? You don’t have to through with it, and if you do choose to act otherwise, there’s no legal ramifications. Hey “redsfan” how bout you relax? It is a private town and they are asking for you to respect their way of life. Couldn’t they scowl at people before the sign was put up? She’d be free to ignore it anyway. Is it too much to ask for men to dress like men and the women not to walk around in the modern day uniform of the tart. If you can’t tell the difference, you have bigger problems than this. For your privacy and protection, when applying to a job online, never give your social security number to a prospective employer, provide credit card or bank account information, or perform any sort of monetary transaction. Isn’t that in the General Welfare clause or something? It’s nice to see people with standards of behavior. You can’t legislate good taste or respect for others. YOU, however, sound like you would protest and file suit insisting your rights had been violated. You have no idea what you are talking about, so shut it! I do not physically enforce these standards on others because the standards are not law. Kiryas Joel began with a 1977 founding population of 500 people. Not because it is a law, but because it is out of respect for your beliefs. Jewish Shaira is no better than Muslim Shaira. There is no enforcement, no penalty. Imagine if it was a Muslim city and they didn’t allow non-Muslims there at all. and they are asking for your cooperation. RTFA. Example the “N” word or certain phrases regarding racial or sexual names that can only be used by members of that group. The difference here is that the “group” as you called it doesn’t own the town. Let’s be proud to stand up for what’s right for once, Copyright © 2020 | The Yeshiva World. If it were a muslem community, I wouldn’t want to go there. The Jewish people are Islams enemy and America too, you morons! Then you’d have been ranting about Shaira law being imposed in America. The same would be true if it were a muslim community or a nudist colony. Sounds like a great place to visit and bring a family, to me. Sheesh! mikey, RTFA. yo, they are JEWISH, ya know the folks who have been fighting Muslims for years. . What sounds bigoted and full of venom is your response that, no doubt, states that the beliefs and values of others are vacuous, void of substance.”. Are you talking about this article or Liberals? And no, its not a law, it’s a private request, like when you go to a fancy resturant and they have a dress code requiring ties and jackets, well for you i guess it would be shoes and shirt. its not an “affair” or “wedding” it is in broad daylight on the street in a town in the USA. Use our layers tool to find nearby restaurants, shops, and hotels. Cliff, you are saying that “generalizing anyone is [generally] not productive.” I generalize between my wife and women who are generally not my wife. Really? In Israel, these same filthy people beat up women who don’t comply. No one’s rights are being violated, if you don’t like that community’s standards, go to another one or don’t visit. Information and translations of Kiryas in the most comprehensive dictionary definitions resource on … Your lack of simple grammar is inconsiderate. Or are you just assuming they are liberal to champion your own personal set of political values? This town is not a house, its not a gated community. To comply with the wishes of people with moral and ethical values would be in direct conflict with those who are making the bigoted comments here. Read the article, dude. These people who are responsible for this religious repressive sign would be wise to not try to enforce it in any way. As for the article, there’s nothing wrong with politely asking somebody to maintain certain standards in your presence. There is no such thing as a “private town”. Hey Mark, I’m with you, Jess can come to my town anytime she wants, According to 2008 census figures, the village has the highest poverty rate in the nation. I agree with robthomaseyes comment. I disagree with your assertion the Rabbi or anyone else would protest outside any store for being rude. The constitution does not guarantee you the right to never be offended, get over it. Kiryas Joel is an AMERICAN town, not a private country. In Israel they WHIPPED a musician for playing to a COED audience. How DARE they look disapprovingly at Jess, when Jess is probably support their welfare lifestyle with the taxes she pays? This is a request that people act ‘civilized’ and not wear outfits that will cause young boys to lose their minds with fantasy about how easy a scantly dressed woman might be. Pathetic. kids dont bring guns to school there…parents dont beat their kids to death there…spouses dont kill each other sooo get urself educated. I think I’ll write my congressman…. You are respondin with politeness. Of course not. its only respect that is being asked Me too but only to a certain point. Shmeras Ha’ayin is an important Jewish value, discussed in all Mussar and Chassidic seforim. There’s no such thing as a private town. YOU LIBERALS are always invoking your right to do something (usually idiotic or disgusting), but when someone else does it, you have a problem with it if its moralistic or not in line with your “Progressive” radical views. Uncomfortable? On 7/14/1988, a category F3 (max. I just listed three for the free exercise of this community thereof. LMFAO@U. Lazy bums?? People should have opinions about facts and issues, not follow some damn doctrine of a common belief. Flames lit up the Saturday evening as … Feel free to ignore it. this is as bad or worse than the muslim’s treatment of women…..put em all on an island the viola, the world is free of that problem forever. True. NO loitering on the corners waiting for a white van to pick you up for a days work. There are no more real liberals in power any-more. I agree with you. Don’t tell that to a liberal…he doesn”t know how to distinguish. I am sorry! Dan Te is absolutely correct. The whole idea here in AMERICA is that it’s a melting pot, not segregated, that means we ALL have to get along, not just the ones that are “special interests” . No one here is trying to *impose* anything. This sign is not nearly as bad as the Commandment to “Have A Nice Day” and about as much of an infringement on your Constitutional rights. The significance of only having 39 is that it was believed that 40 lashes would kill a man. She said she noticed scowling faces. Thank God most true religions recognize how filthy just looking at the human body can be. Glenda said: “I agree with robthomaseyes comment. Recover your password. It’s just a sign on private property. Kiryas Joel is a hasidic enclave in Monroe, NY. Pace “Please curb your dog, shoes and shirts for service…” Raffi you sound like you are from Ramat Aviv. Would you intentionally wear a string bikini to a black tie dinner? And you did you get this information from the aliens who abducted you and took you to their Planet and implanted all of this wisdom in your head, or was it a mind probe they sent down? Maynard said “Take a look at “People of Wal-mart”. If it was a muslim town people would say they had a right to be respected and there wouldn’t even be a story. Wow! Dave Hirsch is nebach so off base, that its futile to respond to his hateful comment…. I don’t care how they make somebody dress in their synagogues or in their homes. It’s simply wrong. It is as repugnant to me as it would be were it a Muslim group which erected it. Chris, Thank you Colorado. Not that we didn’t have problems. OUtrageous, and in my country too. Just be respectful of others’ values. I love it! There is a big difference between a polite request (as seen on the sign) and a Court Order or a City Ordinance. This is The United States. What a thin skinned whiney namby-pamby milquetoast child. If this were a Muslim community asking men and women to maintain seperate spheres and to dress modestly, would you be writing, “only a liberal cries foul…”? If the local culture insisted on sex in the streets I wonder if Mr. Kaufmann would respect that. Perhaps before you try that in a skimpy bottom, it would be prudent of you to check with your gynecologist, lest you offend by more than your immodesty…. Yes EWagner635, they did ask us to remove our kippas and shave. It makes this request seem like a great idea. Learn more. Whether it is the Shakers, the Amish, the Mennonites you have an opportunity of viewin a different culture in your midst. G-d bless you, my friend! Actually it is better than the Muslims. “It’s a way of respect,” said one resident. of men and women was lashed 39 times to make him Holy Cow! Just because I am orthodox? “I feel like my constitutional rights are being violated,” said Tyrone Wheeler, a day laborer in the village seeking work. Your choice or not but ultimately you are weak. The hasidic jews are just asking nicely. I agree I am tired of everytime somone is asked to show a little common courtesy (from a conservetive point of view) we are met with hatred and angree language calling us names like bigot, homophobe, racist or just plain intolerent. hypocrisy. Then they tell us were we can eat, pray or say all the while making it harder just to walk my kids downtown without seeing what color thong the girl in front of us is wearing or the guy infront of us is wearing jeans that fall to his knees. whats next a nice stoning for non-compliance? your email. A reminder of how to show respect is great. What’s wrong with behaving properly and not running around town practically naked? Sorry to say but if the note offends the immoral ppl around then it should be taken down. Or will cause boys to lose theri minds? Um, you may want to add a bit more tinfoil to your hat. common sense. No, Rob. That’s just plain courtesy. If you’re going to wear your halter top and ass cup shorts in public, expect to be greeted with a scowl from people that cherish just a little modesty in the way one dresses. Why is it that so may of the folks who demand that we respect Muslim culture refuse to respect anyone else’s? There’s no way they are connected with the Taliban. The tradition in the village of Satmar Hasidic Jews is modesty. In fact, these signs violate nobody’s rights. For example, if you believe in global warming than you are also likely to be pro abortion pro redefining marriage generally pro bigger government in most every area of life (although you never want to admit that…but it’s true) and less likely to go to church and believe that the bible is word of God, and so on. Do not litter, take your trash with you or dispose of properly. Tolerance means to put up with something, you don’t have to like it, or even approve of it, just tolerate it. It’s called taking responsibility for yourself, something our federal government does not understand. It’s one step closer to Hilter wanting things “his” way. And if her “g” doesn’t work, that doesn’t preclude her from leaving a comment! They want a walled “ghetto” community again. Why don’t you go find some religion you can be proud of? your username. It is a REQUEST. According to 2008 census figures, the village has the highest poverty rate in the nation. It makes this request seem like a great idea.”. THE POLITICIANS AND BANKERS ARE ROBBING YOU BLIND. The bankers are ROBBING you blind. “The New York Civil Liberties Union said because the signs were paid for privately and are not on public land and they pass constitutional muster.”. In this degenerate world that we live in today, it is appropriate for a Kehillah kedosha, like Kiryas Joel, to do everything possible to shield their children from Tumah. You might if you were a woman. A sign in Kiryas Joel, the Hasidic Jewish enclave, is evoking mixed reaction. The way you invoke the Holocaust to make a lame point is disgusting and an insult to the 6 millions Jews who were butchered. If they want to put up signs like that let them do it in their own god damn country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As of the census of 2000, there were 13,138 people, 2,229 households, and 2,137 families residing in the village. This must be a joke!!! They’re trying to impose their non-mainstream standards upon everyone. She said she noticed scowling faces. Theyre just asking. Kiryas Joel-area historical tornado activity is above New York state average. Not! So dressing like Jessica Pantalemon may elicit a scowl, but it won’t earn you a summons.”. If more Americans thought as they do on this issue anyway, the country would have far fewer problems and would present far less of an affront to the LORD, who, in case anyone has not noticed, is in the process of visiting encroaching JUDGEMENT upon the land, for it’s idolatry and rebellion against Him. I wonder how the reaction would be if the local store has a sign that said anyone who wears long black coats furry hats has long facial hair curls and are covered from head to toe will be frowned upon here but we will still serve you just not with a smile how the Rabbi would feel about that they would be saying discrimination and protesting outside the store. Just to be obnoxious? This is nothing more than Sharia law, Jewish style. Go crawl back under the rock you came from. But it would be wrong and cruel to go there wearing a bikini just to flaunt your non belief. It’s polite and gets the point across. Think about it, people. freedom does not mean show all ur meat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,u nudist go live in a jungle. Welcome to AMERICA if you want to be “back home” then go there if it’s so great. One has a culture that one can respect. Jewish-SHARIA LAW comes to America. Pure silliness. What is worse than a bigot is a race, religion or group that declares any action or word off limits for those that are not of that race, religion or group……. Are you really ‘Embarrassed to be a Jew? Ummmm, get an opinion, or backbone or voice. I recall back maybe 20 years ago when women did not wear pants to church. Quit taking yourself so seriously! It IS their ‘own god damn country’ and it is their right, according to the 1st Amendment, to put up signs making this polite REQUEST. The wording is polite, and there is no threat of enforcement. Punishment for performance in front of “mixed audience” Wish we could criminalize that at times. This was a welcome relief to all those who are taking this too seriously. By viewing our video content, you are accepting the terms of our. As an American Jew who lives near “them”, I am thoroughly embarrassed and offended. Written and curated by real attorneys at Quimbee. Violate Moslem custom and you risk being stoned, whipped, blown up, or beheaded. Does this sound familiar? It’s hot. And by the way Mr. Appaled, there are two L’s in “appalled”. To compare a town to a store is absurd – a store is privately owned, a town is not. “They’re telling us that we can’t come into their community unless we dress a certain way,” said Adia Parker, an Orange County resident. 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